Glennon Doyle & Brené Brown on Untamed
Glennon Doyle & Brené Brown on Untamed
Source: Unlocking Us Podcast (Listen: 1hr, 7 min)
Contributor: Selena Garcia
“IMAGINATION IS NOT WHERE WE GO TO ESCAPE REALITY, BUT MAYBE IMAGINATION IS WHERE WE GO TO DISCOVER THE TRUEST REALITY THAT WE WERE MEANT TO BRING INTO THE WORLD.” - GLENNON DOYLE
There is so much great fruit in this interview; you’ll want to listen to this in its entirety. And while this technically speaks to womanhood, it applies to everyone!
They touch on boundaries, freedom, pain, sobriety, parenting, and self-awareness. Ultimately, the teachings are in Glennon’s book, Untamed, but at the very least you’ll leave feeling like you’ve been in the room with them.
“FEELING IT ALL IS REALLY, REALLY HARD. BUT THERE’S ONE THING THAT WILL BE WORSE THAN FEELING IT ALL, AND THAT IS MISSING IT ALL.” - GLENNON DOYLE
(19:30) GLENNON: “I had a good enough marriage. I had a life that women are trained to be grateful for, and yet I was angry all the time. I was this low-level reverberate, and I felt this constant ache. This longing for a truer, deeper, realer love, and I had this constant whisper just relentlessly saying to me, ‘but wasn’t it supposed to be more beautiful than this?’ And I hear that story from honest women about so many things. About their family lives, about their jobs, about their nation, about their world, and yet we are part of this Universal gaslighting that tells women over and over again – ‘no, no, no, no, no, that’s not real. That longing inside of you, that imagination you have that it was all supposed to be more beautiful than this, that is not real. Stay in your place; be grateful.’
“What I have come to believe, is that what is inside of us, is often more real than what is outside of us. That what is inside of us, we were meant to, as you would say, unlock. We were meant to unleash, to change the outside order of things. That maybe imagination is not where we go to escape reality, but maybe imagination is where we go to discover the truest reality that we were meant to bring into the world.”
“One of my favorite definitions of faith is the belief in the unseen order of things. So there is the visible order of things we can see in front of us – the war, the fighting, the poverty and all the things (21:35) that we are taught is just the way it is - but the unseen order is the thing inside us that says ‘no, it was supposed to be more beautiful than this.’”
“If we only accept what we can see, we will never change what we can see. That’s why every visionary – you know Martin Luther King said ‘I have a dream,’ that’s why Gloria Steinem said ‘dreaming is a form of planning,’ because if for us we do not go to our imaginations to plan, we will only get what we’ve always gotten.”
(Interview starts: 9:03)
LISTEN TO THE FULL INTERVIEW, HERE. (1hr, 07min)